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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Tom Tugendhat Afghanistan One

Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

BBC

News, Politics

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The Foreign Affairs Select Committee Chair on shame, Afghanistan and Global Britain

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A national tragedy, shameful, a staggering failure,

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Britain's biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez.

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That is how my guest on political thinking this week has described our withdrawal from

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Afghanistan.

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He is Tom Tuganad, former soldier, former adviser to the governor of Hellman Province,

0:23.8

former adviser to the chief of the defence staff.

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He is now chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons.

0:31.0

And this is the series in which I have conversations with, not interrogations of those who shape

0:37.1

our political thinking about what shapes theirs, their background, their values, their lives

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beyond politics.

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It was precisely that which led MPs to listen to Tom Tuganad in total silence as he spoke

0:50.1

in the commons of his struggle with anger, grief and rage as he watched events unfold

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incapable.

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Like many veterans this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger

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and grief and rage, the feeling of abandonment of not just a country, but the sacrifice that

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my friends made.

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I bid funeral from pool to dumb lane.

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I watched good men go into the earth, taking with them a part of me and a part of all of

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us.

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And this week has torn open some of those wounds, left them raw, left us all hurting.

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Tom Tuganad, welcome to Political Thinking.

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