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RiskReversal Pod

The Tokenmaxxing Party Is Over and No One Wants to Admit It

RiskReversal Pod

RiskReversal Media

Business News, News, Investing, Business

4.7836 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami open with promotion of their new interview series Standing Table (episodes with Anthony Scaramucci, Rick Heitzmann, and SoFi’s Liz Thomas) and note a recent RiskReversal conversation with Dan Niles about investing in a market bubble. They discuss eased geopolitical rhetoric heading into Memorial Day, crude around $88, lower yields, and the S&P 500 at all-time highs, while warning that valuation measures (Buffett indicator, CAPE) and consumer stress signals (high auto payments, elevated gas/insurance costs, rising credit card delinquencies) are flashing red. They review sharp pullbacks in Costco and Walmart as valuation-driven despite decent quarters, then turn to a rebound and potential rotation into software (IGV) and cybersecurity. They highlight rising AI token consumption pricing, “token maxing,” and reports that Amazon, Microsoft, and Uber are pulling back after blowing through AI budgets, framing it as an IPO-era monetization issue. They close on Dell’s blowout AI server results and parabolic stock move, cautioning about margins, valuation, and broader crash risk, referencing Andrew Ross Sorkin’s comments on the inevitability of future market crashes. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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1:00.4

Welcome to the Monday edition of the Risk Reversal podcast.

1:01.6

I am Dan Nathan.

1:02.8

That is Guy Adami.

1:05.9

Guy, we got a lot to go over from last week.

1:08.6

A lot going on this week.

1:13.6

But we also have a little housekeeping, don't we? Something near and dear to our hearts that we launched what two weeks ago three weeks ago i like the housekeeping we something that we're

1:18.1

calling standing table we released the third episode that featured elizabeth thomas she of sofi

1:24.5

by the way you mentioned addition there was a great place in Georgetown called

1:28.2

the third edition. Oh, yeah. I don't think exists anymore. But back to you. That's where your main man, John Alasia, our main man, John Alasia and his band, Derry Berry and Alasia used to play back in the day. I've heard all the great, great stories about that. Yeah, Standing Table was epic, though, because you know we launched with Anthony Scaramucci at his restaurant hunting fish. Then we went with our really good friend,

1:48.0

Rick Heitzman, at First Mark Capitol. We did that at Manhattan up in the sky. That is Danny

1:53.2

Myers Place. And then Liz Thomas at Harry is down on Wall Street. And these are a conversation.

1:57.9

We're not drilling down on the markets and all this stuff like we do right now.

2:01.5

Just a lot of stories about them and what they're interested in and a whole host of other things. So Guy and I, you and I had a great time. We got a bunch more coming out. Go to our YouTube, watch the episode, share it, rate it, review it. That's how people find a guy, Tommy. So that's how it's called discovery.

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