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The Today Debate: Do we need a Monarchy?

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BBC

News, Daily News

4.0837 Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The Today Debate is about taking a subject and pulling it apart with more time than we could ever have during the Today programme in the morning.

Today presenter Mishal Husain was joined by a panel of guests in the BBC's Radio Theatre in Broadcasting House to look at the future of the Royal Family in 'The Today Debate: Do we need a Monarchy?'

Joining her were Billy Bragg, the singer and songwriter; Juliet Samuel, a columnist for the Times; Polly Toynbee, a columnist at the Guardian; Charles Moore, former editor of the Telegraph and the Spectator, biographer of Margaret Thatcher and Jason Arday, an academic who works on inequality, race and education.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:04.7

Hello, when King Charles is crowned in Westminster Abbey next week, it will be the first time much of the UK population will ever have seen the centuries-old traditions that surround the anointing of a monarch.

0:17.5

It will be a day of ceremony and history, at times of solemnity, and for many a celebration

0:23.5

and an occasion to remember. The nation's story is often divided up into phases marked by the names

0:29.7

of monarchs, their reigns, symbols of what a particular time brought us, the people. It's an

0:35.6

artifice, of course, in our modern era when the monarch no longer

0:38.6

rules over us. But is that link to our past something that roots us, something anchoring and

0:45.1

valuable? Or is it simply strange that we have children knowing from a young age that they will

0:50.2

one day be our head of state? Do we need a monarchy? That's what we're here to discuss.

0:55.5

Welcome to the today debate.

1:05.7

Welcome to everyone in the audience who booked their places here without knowing what our talking

1:10.7

point would be.

1:12.0

And welcome to the five people on the stage of the radio theatre with me.

1:16.9

Billy Bragg, the singer and songwriter, is well known for being a lifelong left-winger.

1:21.4

After meeting the late Queen in 2007, he said he'd never called himself a Republican,

1:26.9

and campaigning against the monarchy

1:28.7

distracts us from addressing the issue of where power really lies.

1:33.7

Juliet Samuel is a columnist for The Times.

1:35.9

She's written that a monarchy keeps in our lives the beauty of allegory and symbolism,

1:40.2

the lion and the unicorn, the rose and the thistle, and allows us to turn away at least momentarily

1:45.7

from the ghastiness of office carpets, call centres and traffic jams.

1:51.0

I'm looking at our office carpet now, Juliet, hoping it's not too offensive.

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