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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

The Time Cure: Overcoming PTSD with the New Psychology of Time Perspective Therapy by Dr. Philip Zimbardo with Rosemary Sword

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Those who have experienced Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) or Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD) will often report the profoundly painful experience of being thrown into past trauma by a particular trigger. Common examples include war veterans who may experience full body activation following a loud explosive noise. Another example is victims of violent crimes being shown content about similar circumstances that can launch them into the past. This experience of being thrown back in time has been thoroughly analyzed utilizing Time Perspective Therapy (TPT) by co-developer and counselor Rosemary Sword. Rose is the co-author of the renowned 2012 book The Time Cure: Overcoming PTSD with the New Psychology of Time Perspective Therapy. She worked on the book with her husband, clinical psychologist Richard Sword, PhD, and Philip Zimbardo, PhD, psychologist and professor at Stanford University. When Richard passed away from gastric cancer a year and a half later, she continued her work on TPT with Zimbardo, eventually coming to their new book Seeing Through the Grief. While it was released in the spring of 2024, Zimbardo sadly passed away in October. Other projects they worked on included a second TPT book titled Living & Loving Better, partnering with Happify.com Premium to offer Overcome PTSD and Heal from Grief and Loss, as well as a Psychology Today column, The Time Cure. This is a fascinating interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast,

0:09.0

Cult Conversations, the Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan.

0:14.6

And I've been looking forward to talking with Rose Sword for a long time, actually.

0:23.3

And unfortunately, her husband, Richard, passed away so we can't talk with him, too.

0:30.1

But Rose and Rick worked with my mentor, Philip Zimbardo, extensively on the time perspective therapy model.

0:42.8

And I want to talk with Rose Sword about these valuable paradigms that can be very empowering

0:53.5

for people who've had post-traumatic stress disorder and so many

0:57.7

other issues. So, Rose, I'm going to just read a little bit of your bio, if you don't mind,

1:04.2

that you are a co-developer of time perspective therapy, which is a talk therapy based on

1:10.2

Phillips and Bardo's time perspective

1:12.2

theory.

1:13.6

And in 2012, Rose and her husband, psychologist Rick Sword and Phil, co-authored the time cure,

1:22.4

overcoming PTSD with the new psychology of time perspective therapy. Good, Rose, you're holding up the book cover.

1:31.1

Great. Thank you so much. And then unfortunately, Rick passed away from cancer, year and a half later.

1:38.5

Rose and Phil continued collaborating on time perspective theory projects.

1:45.1

And they developed a mental health app for hapify.com, wrote a popular psychology

1:51.4

today blog column, contributed chapters to several books, including Bandy Lee, who my listeners

2:00.5

know me well,

2:03.1

the New York Times bestseller of The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.

2:07.8

And Rose and Phil also published two additional time perspective therapy books,

2:13.5

Living and Loving Better and Seeing Through Grief.

2:17.4

We can see seeing through grief over your shoulder, Rose, in the video.

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