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Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remnant podcast, brought you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

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So where to begin?

We actually covered a lot of territory in the Dispatch podcast this week, and, but we, but it feels like we recorded it a million years ago.

It doesn't feel like a lot of change, though.

The government is still shut down.

I'm tempted to say Jimmy Crack Corn and I don't care, but I just, it's one of these stories.

It's sort of like, I often think, like, what would the media be like if the world of nuclear engineers or graphic designers or accountants suddenly took over the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, whatever.

And they still had their ideological stuff maybe, but like, um, their interests would be different.

And all of a sudden, like, various accounting stories would be a much bigger deal than if the accountants had taken over or, um, nuclear issues would be a much bigger deal than if the accountants had taken over or nuclear issues would be

a much bigger deal, right? And I usually think about this in terms of, you know, media stories

about the media, right? The press, the media loves stories about itself. And it always elevates

stories about itself more than it should.

Occasionally, you know, there are real violations of the First Amendment and the coverage

of the government's treatment of the media or whatever is warranted.

But there's always like a, there's always a sort of a rounding up in intensity and prominence when

there are media stories because people in the media love writing about the media.

Second to that is people who are in the Beltway who follow politics, who follow government,

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