Eternal Vigilance | Interview: Jay Nordlinger

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Jonah Goldberg has convinced Dispatch contributing writer Jay Nordlinger to take a break from swanning about Europe to sit and chew over the great issues of our day. They discuss the two-year anniversary of Hamas’ October 7 attacks, the Nobel Peace Prize, the consequences of presidential action, and free speech. Show Notes:—Jay’s Substack—Jay’s New Criterion page—Renew Democracy Initiative—The Next Move Substack—Jay’s book: Peace, They Say: A History of the Nobel Peace Prize, the Most Famous and Controversial Prize in the World—The Rest Is History episode on Enoch Powell The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.
0:18.0	Can you diggers?
0:27.5	Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Reminent podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
0:33.7	First of all, lots of folks have asked for the return of this guest. In fact, lots of folks have demanded to the point of almost not quite thuggery that we hire this guest.
0:49.7	And I'm sorry about that, John.
0:51.8	It's all right. That's all right. How rude.
0:54.6	How rude.
0:56.0	There are people who love you.
0:56.4	That's all right.
0:57.1	Strange folks.
1:01.8	But we have in probably the most exciting news of his entire career made Jay Norlinger a dispatch contributor, which we're very exciting about.
1:07.2	He's got other things.
1:08.5	And he's written books about the Nobel Peace Prize. And does all of, he, he, as Rob Long would say, he swans around Europe at all these fancy conferences.
1:20.6	Rob Long is the only person I know he uses swan as a verb.
1:23.6	He's a bit of a swaner himself, frankly.
1:25.6	He is indeed.
1:26.6	He is in the Hollywood and all that in New York.
1:27.8	It's very much a take one to know one kind of deal. And Jay Norther was recently named a senior
1:36.0	resident fellow at the Renew Democracy Initiative, which was founded by Gary Gosparov,
1:41.9	the great Gary Gospparov in 2017.
1:47.7	He writes in podcasts for their publication, The Next Move.
1:49.6	He's also the movie critic for the new criterion.
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