I'm really actually very excited you know Jeffrey's got me all pumped up over this whole

environmental insanity and what's going on and the lies that are being told and you

know those are government agencies talking about it but now you have these giant corporate

entities that by the way also seem to be controlling our government so I don't know

what's first the cart or the horse or however that goes but this idea of ESG

corporations that are being judged by how much they get involved in the

you know environmental social and governance systems of business framework

for considering environmental issues and social issues in the context of

corporate governance I'll tell you this is something that I'm very confused about and I've got someone that is

going to be very capable of answering some of my questions I think is going to

answer yours to take a look at this it's good to have Marlow Oaks with us our

state treasurer.

The Utah State Treasurer, Marlow Oaks.

And joining me today is Marlow Oaks, who is the state treasurer

for the state of Utah.

I've never seen a state treasurer get a standing ovation before.

Marlow Oaks knows more about the subject from anybody in the country.

He's now the treasurer of the state of Utah. He's a long-time investment manager.

Thank you for inviting me to testify before you on the impact of ESG on retirement security.

Masquerading as a sophisticated, holistic, and enlightened way of creating shareholder value, ESG is a dangerous investment scheme.

ESG has created an uncontrollable impulse to pressure corporations to solve complex global

and societal issues.

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