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Depresh Mode with John Moe

The Thorny Issue of Airline Pilots and Mental Illness

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Mental Health, Comedy, John Moe, Comedy Interviews, Interview, Health & Fitness

5777 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Helen Ouyang of The New York Times Magazine on treatment, disclosure, and safety.

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0:00.0

A note to our listeners, this episode contains mention of suicide. The subject of mental health

0:06.6

can cover a lot of stories. Sometimes it's a story of how a person manages their chronic major

0:12.7

depressive disorder. That's a mental health story. Sometimes it's about an emerging treatment or

0:18.1

therapy that may be on the way to providing a lot of relief for people

0:21.9

who are suffering. Big mental health story, important mental health story. And sometimes a mental

0:27.4

health story is about when you get on an airplane to fly 30,000 feet in the air in an aluminum

0:33.4

tube, what's the mental state of the person flying that plane? Because that's pretty important.

0:41.0

It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

0:52.1

A little later in the show today, we're going to talk about a small source of delight,

0:56.8

a tiny source of joy that's been going around on our Facebook group and that we've been trying

1:01.5

as well. It involves an animated bird and a commitment to self-care. But first, let's look to

1:07.8

the skies, a little warily, perhaps.

1:13.4

Mental illness affects a lot of people.

1:19.8

The National Institutes of Health say about 23% of the U.S. population is currently living with some kind of mental illness, currently.

1:22.6

And that doesn't include all the people who have dealt with it before or will in the future.

1:28.9

Huge chunk of the population. And pilots, being people, are part of that population. Therefore, stands to reason,

1:36.4

a lot of pilots have to deal with those issues as well. But what happens if they admit to that

1:42.3

and seek treatment, get meds. Try to get better.

1:46.2

Well, it can have a major effect on their careers, their livelihood. And what happens if they have a

1:52.0

mental health condition and don't admit to it and don't seek help? Well, that can have a major

1:58.1

effect on all sorts of things. Helen O'yang is a physician, an associate professor at Columbia University, and a contributing writer to the New York Times magazine.

2:08.5

She wrote an article that appeared last month in the magazine titled, Why Airline Pilots Feel Pushed to Hide Their Mental Illness.

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