The Third Option with Miles McPherson
Maxwell Leadership Podcast
John Maxwell
4.7 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 1 July 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, John Maxwell Zooms with Miles McPherson, pastor of the Rock Church in San Diego, California, and author of The Third Option: Hope for a Racially Divided Nation. They discuss the importance of celebrating what different races have in common, the often-overlooked paradox of being "colorblind" to race, and the value of confronting our own blind spots.
Mark Cole is joined by Traci Morrow for the application portion of the episode to discuss John and Miles's conversation. They each share how maintaining a learning posture has challenged and changed their own perspectives.
Our BONUS resources for this episode are the Third Option Worksheet, which includes fill-in-the-blank notes from John's teaching, and the live video of the entire discussion between John, Miles, and Mark. You can download the worksheet and find the video link by visiting MaxwellPodcast.com/ThirdOption.
References:
The Third Option by Miles McPherson
Miles McPherson on Anderson Cooper 360°
Leadershift by John C. Maxwell
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, welcome to the John Maxwell Leadership Podcast. I am today with Tracy Morrow. She is |
| 0:12.2 | no stranger to us. She's no stranger to John Maxwell. You are going to hear a leader's |
| 0:18.6 | perspective yet again. Tracy, I'm glad to have you with us now. Today, in our podcast, John |
| 0:26.4 | Maxwell recently had an incredible conversation with a leader named Miles McPherson. Miles |
| 0:34.5 | wrote a book called The Third Option. And in this podcast, you're going to hear me challenge |
| 0:40.2 | you to go pick up that book. Now, let me explain Miles McPherson. Let me tell you what |
| 0:44.7 | Miles is up to. He is a pastor in San Diego, California. He speaks to over 20,000 people |
| 0:52.4 | on a weekly basis. But Miles has not always been there. In fact, Miles grew up on the East |
| 0:57.9 | Coast. He then played football for the San Diego Chargers, played pro football for the NFL |
| 1:04.0 | for four years. And then was radically changed over some addictions and some challenges that |
| 1:10.9 | he had in life. And because of that change, he committed his life to transforming communities. |
| 1:17.9 | And you're going to love it. Now, Miles is a voice in a very needed time right now. In |
| 1:25.0 | fact, his book talks about bringing us into a place to where we can heal from the racial |
| 1:33.6 | division that's in the United States and to be honest with you around the world. As |
| 1:38.3 | John began to see the crisis that we're in of making sure that everyone understands |
| 1:45.1 | the value that every life brings to the table. He said, Mark, the person I want to talk to |
| 1:51.4 | on my leadership when it matters the most series is Miles McPherson. It was so good that |
| 1:57.8 | we wanted to play two clips for you in today's podcast. The first clip talks about an |
| 2:04.6 | us against them attitude in the world's culture. The second clip is on self-awareness and the |
| 2:12.8 | importance of seeing from another person's perspective that may not look like you think like you |
| 2:18.8 | or has been brought up like you. You're going to enjoy and I hope be impacted by today. Now, if |
| 2:27.2 | you would like to see the entire podcast or the entire streaming conversation of John and Miles, |
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