So my guest today is Jill Schlesinger.

She's an Emmy-nominated and Gracie award-winning business analyst for CBS News.

And Jill, she covers the economy, markets, investing, kind of anything else with a dollar

sign on TV, and also on the Jill on Money podcast and her nationally syndicated show, Jill

on Money.

But before stepping into the world of financial news and advice, she actually spent 14 years

as the co-owner and chief investment advisor for an independent advisory firm.

And that was after following in her dad's footsteps as a trader on the floor of the New

York commodities exchange, which back in the day when she was doing this was kind of

known as a bit of a brutal place to exist.

And she discovered that her heart was more in understanding the psychology of money

and sort of like why people interact with it in certain ways and then helping people

make better decisions that enable better lives.

And that same curiosity has led to Jill's first book, The Dumb Things Smart People Do

with their money, that reveals so many of the completely irrational things that we do

in the name of money, sometimes getting more of it, sometimes completely avoiding it.

And so much of the conditioning that we get from family and society that leads to these

completely aberrant decisions.

And also we talk about what we can sort of like do about all of these things.

Really excited to share this wide-grained new conversation with you.

I'm Jonathan Fields and this is Good Life Project.

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