The Thing About Pam Hupp - An Interview w/Russ Faria's Defense Attorney Joel Schwartz
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🗓️ 23 February 2022
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
That's what happened to Russ Faria, the husband of Betsy Faria.
For this episode, Russ Faria's criminal defense attorney Joel Schwartz joins Robin to discuss the entirety of the case as well as his new book Bone Deep: Untangling the Betsy Faria Murder Case.
Joel was there from the very beginning. He represented Russ in the first trial and lost, seeing him convicted and sentenced to life in prison...but he was also there at the end, helping to get that conviction overturned and watching as his client walked out of prison, vindicated and free.
Above all, he believed in his client...and he believed that Pam Hupp was the person responsible for Betsy Faria's murder.
Before you listen to this episode, feel free to listen to the 5-part series that we did on the Pam Hupp case. It is one you will not want to miss.
And don't forget, the case is so wild that it's been turned into a TV show! The Thing About Pam airs 3/8 on NBC.
Buy Joel's book here: https://tinyurl.com/3pewdc6x
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to We Saw the Devil, an investigative and conversational true crime podcast that deep dives into |
| 0:14.5 | fascinating criminal cases that are solved, unsolved, are ongoing. |
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| 0:41.1 | by backing us on Patreon. Hello everyone you are listening to We Saw the Devil this is Robin and guys I am so |
| 0:57.4 | freaking excited for this episode today the planning for this episode actually began |
| 1:02.4 | three months ago before the holiday break and I have just been dying from excitement since then |
| 1:09.6 | Many of you may remember the episode that I did on Pam Hupp, the Pam Hupp case. If you are not familiar, |
| 1:16.4 | before you actually continue with this episode, please go back. I did a five episode series on it. |
| 1:22.8 | If any of you are interested, let me know I'm thinking about putting all of them together |
| 1:26.5 | into one long episode that it tells the entire story in one place, |
| 1:31.8 | because that entire case is insanity and there is actually a TV |
| 1:36.9 | series coming out on NBC on March 8th titled The Thing About Pam. Now for those of you who are not familiar and don't have time want to listen to the episode but don't have time to go back which please do listen to it. It's a really really deep case. The gist is this. |
| 1:54.0 | There was a man named Russ Faria. |
| 1:56.1 | He was married to Betsy for many years. |
| 1:59.0 | Russ went out one night, hung out with friends, |
| 2:01.7 | came home and discovered his wife Betsy brutally murdered. |
| 2:06.8 | He thought initially because she was wearing darker clothes that she had actually committed |
| 2:11.3 | suicide. |
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