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If you're a public market investor fishing in software right now, you're

really not fishing in very exciting waters. You're fishing in a river at Fresno, and the private

market investors are getting to fish in, you know, name your, you know, Alaska, Colorado, Montana,

Patagonia. That's where all the action and all the excitement is. And I think, you know, in an ideal world,

some of those companies will go public this year. I don't know that that will happen because

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