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Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

The Tears of Things with Pete Enns

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

How can we find wisdom amidst outrage and connect with the divine in the face of suffering? In this episode, we're exploring the self-titled first chapter of Richard's latest book, The Tears of Things: Prophetic Wisdom for an Age of Outrage, entitled "The Tears of Things." After our conversation with Richard, we're joined by Pete Enns, author, Old Testament scholar, and host of "The Bible for Normal People," who helps us explore the importance of uncertainty, the evolution of faith, and reading scripture as a journey. Pete, along with hosts and CAC Staff Mike Petrow, Paul Swanson, and Drew Jackson, discuss navigating the rhythm of order, disorder, and reorder in both life and scripture, the value of tears in the prophetic journey, and how the wisdom of the prophets can be applied to contemporary issues of injustice and outrage. Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is the Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. David’s, Pennsylvania. He has also taught courses at Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. He is the host of The Bible for Normal People podcast, a frequent contributor to journals and encyclopedias, and the author of several books, including The Sin of Certainty, The Bible Tells Me So, and Inspiration and Incarnation. He lives in northern New Jersey. Resources: • Grab a copy of The Tears of Things here, where you can get a free reader's guide, discover a new course, and other offerings related to the book. • The transcript for this episode can be found here. • Check out the work of Pete Enns and The Bible for Normal People here.

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:07.7

Friends, welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast with Father Richard Roar.

0:12.5

Each season, we've been exploring one of Richard's books, and each episode we travel over to Richard's house to discuss the chapter with him.

0:19.8

And then after that, we're joined by a special guest who helps us live the teachings forward. We think about Richard's

0:26.4

teachings in new ways, asking new questions in an evolving and rapidly changing world. But

0:32.3

this season is extra special, because we're exploring Richards next and he claims last brand new book,

0:40.5

The New York Times bestselling The Tears of Things.

0:44.3

As a reminder, you absolutely don't have to read the book to follow along with us,

0:48.9

but we would actually love it if you felt inspired to pick up the book and read along with us

0:53.8

as we take this journey

0:54.9

for the rest of the year. As we head into chapter one today, we'll talk about walking the full

1:00.9

path of the prophets. When Richard explores the Hebrew prophets, he teaches us that he sees a pattern

1:07.5

that applies to all of us no matter where and when we're living. When we take a

1:14.0

hard look at the injustice and the cruelty of the world, we often first feel a deep, deep sense of

1:21.7

anger. Richard encourages us not to run away from that anger. In fact, if we can feel that anger fully and let it be our

1:29.5

teacher, often what happens is we find underneath it a very deep sadness. In fact, this is why

1:35.6

Richard named his book, The Tears of Things. Richard writes, both the prophets and the mystics

1:41.4

remind us, all things have tears and all things deserve tears.

1:48.7

We'll look to find our own tears together as we go through this book with Richard.

1:53.5

Finally and most importantly, we'll explore how this is an invitation to grow up.

1:59.4

We grow up in how we read the Bible. We grow up in how we

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