Hi, Lee. Welcome to our show. Hello, Savannah. Welcome. How are in the world are you today?

I'm doing great. Good. Just got back for New York. New York City. Yes, I got two tattoos when I was there. Two what? Tattoes. What did you call it? A tattie? Tattoos. Just saying it the normal way, I think, but maybe I'm saying it fast. from tiny zaps.

Tiny zaps.

So they're literally tiny tattoos.

And the first one is a T for Todd. He wants to get one with an S here. We meant to get it like years ago, but the tattoo artist was booked, so we didn't get it. Yes. And then the other one is this little star that I got to match my two friends that I was in New York with. Well. Isn't that fun? That's very fun. Well, I don't know.

Is getting a tattoo fun? Do you have any? I do not have any. I, that's actually not surprising. I did not even have to ask that. I've thought about it. What would you get? I have no idea. Yeah. I 15 or 20 years ago you would have gotten like a Bible verse.

But like in Greek, you know, to show that you knew the real thing.

But I noted that you said 15 to 20 years ago you would have,

implying I wouldn't now.

I don't think you would now.

What would you do now?

See, my Bible. Maybe a Wendell Berry.

My Bible scholar friends who like to make fun of theologians are laughing really big right now.

Good.

Yes, yeah.

I love it.

No, I have no idea what I would do now. I would get a portrait of Wendell Berry on your forearm if I were you. I love Wendell, but Wendell's too grumpy. I don't want him on my forearm. Nice. Okay. Maybe I'm more chipper person. Maybe so, yeah. Taylor Swift, perhaps.

Probably not Taylor.

Lee, what are... I will say that I was so pleased when we were on vacation years ago,

and our middle son, who's kind of a fitness junkie, was working out in the living room of the Airbnb we were in in Chicago.

And I looked down, he had his shirt off.

And so I looked down and I saw a tattoo on his ribs on the side that we didn't know he had.

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