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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

The Subtext: Noah Kahan's New Record Will Make You Go to Therapy Again

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Noah Kahan’s The Great Divide is a brutally honest soundtrack to growing up, drifting away, and figuring out how to make peace with the place you come from. This episode dives into The Great Divide, the latest record from Noah Kahan, and unpacks its themes of home, relationships, love, and friendship. In it, they explore their own connections to their hometowns, Wendell Berry’s hot take about automobiles, and Kahan’s own eschatology (that he may or may not know about). Things we mentioned in this episode: The Great Divide album by Noah Kahan The Frozen River by Ariel Lawhon Alabama I Am Bound by Walker Burroughs Out of Your Car, Off Your Horse by Wendell Berry Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth Center Church by Tim Keller Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, Lee. How's it going?

0:01.6

Hello, Savannah. It is going just fine.

0:05.3

Great.

0:05.8

How is it going with you?

0:07.2

I'm in a giggly face at the moment, and everything you're doing is making me laugh.

0:13.1

Which I think means it's going to be a good day.

0:15.6

Well, maybe so. Maybe so or maybe not. I guess we'll see.

0:19.4

We will see.

0:20.0

Yeah, we'll see.

0:20.9

I do want to draw your attention and the attention of anyone who is watching on YouTube or Spotify the video.

0:27.4

I have a sticker on my computer that Todd gave to me.

0:30.7

Your husband gave this to you.

0:32.4

Yes, it's coming in hot.

0:34.2

And it's Noah from the pit.

0:37.2

Yes. Which actually works out well today because we're talking about another Noah. Yes, that does fit nicely. Yeah. But you're obviously a pit fan. I am a big pit fan, and I love any medical drama. Any medical show really at all. It doesn't even have to be drama. It could be funny. Yeah. Like scraps. Yeah. Have ever told you that we lost count of how many times we went to the emergency room raising voice? No. Yeah. We went so many times that we literally lost count of how many times we were there. I mean, we were there on one, I mean, we were there on one, I knew we had been going too much when one Friday night at Vanderbilt, Pediatric ER, we are in the emergency room with our youngest Ben.

1:22.2

Mm-hmm.

1:23.3

And the doctor on call walks in and says,

1:28.0

oh, hi, and how are Chandler and David?

1:31.3

Oh, no, they knew your fan.

1:33.2

We knew we'd been there a lot, yes.

1:35.2

And we literally went, our youngest is the one that went the most,

1:40.0

and we literally went to the most remote ER on the face of the planet in Easter Island.

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