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The President’s Inbox

The Strategy Gap in Iran, With Max Boot

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.4734 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Max Boot, Jeane J. Kirkpatrick senior fellow for national security studies at the Council, sits down with James M. Lindsay to analyze what tactical and strategic lessons can be drawn from the U.S. and Israeli military operations against Iran.   Mentioned on the Episode:   Alexander Ward, Lara Seligman, Alex Leary, and Vera Bergengruen, "Trump Knew the Risk of Iran Blocking the Strait of Hormuz. He Still Went to War," Wall Street Journal   Hugo Lowell, "U.S. Only Has 25% of All Patriot Missile Interceptors Needed for Pentagon’s Military Plans," The Guardian   Seth Jones, "Empty Bins in a Wartime Environment: The Challenge to the U.S. Defense Industrial Base," Center for Strategic and International Studies   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/presidents-inbox/the-strategy-gap-in-iran Opinions expressed on The President’s Inbox are solely those of the host or our guests, not of CFR, which takes no institutional positions on matters of policy.

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0:00.0

This is a war of choice. This is not a war of necessity. There doesn't seem to be any kind of objective

0:04.9

metric by which you can judge the success or failure of this endeavor. This is really, I think,

0:09.6

revealing the limits of American military power. Operation Epic Fury is now in its third week.

0:17.4

U.S. and Israeli airstrikes have killed senior Iran leaders and degraded much of the

0:22.0

country's military infrastructure. Tehran, however, has not yielded. Instead, it has expanded the war

0:27.7

to hit neighboring countries it accuses evading Washington and Jerusalem. The strait of her moves,

0:33.1

through which one-fifth of the world's oil passes remains closed, putting the global economy in jeopardy.

0:39.0

Is an end to the conflict in sight? What lessons does the fighting so far offer for U.S.

0:43.6

military strategy? And is Operation Epic Fury creating new vulnerabilities for the United States

0:49.0

elsewhere in the world? From the Council on Foreign Relations, welcome to the President's inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay. Today I'm

0:57.2

joined by Max Boot, Senior Fellow for National Security Studies here at the Council on Foreign

1:02.7

Relations. Max, thank you very much for joining me. Thanks for having me. Max, let's jump into it,

1:09.0

and let's sort of begin a big picture here. We're now in week three of

1:13.6

Operation Epic Fury. Do we know what it is the United States is trying to accomplish with this

1:20.0

military operation? Great question to which there is no easy answer because the explanation

1:27.1

is constantly shifting.

1:29.3

Sometimes you hear from President Trump that he is after regime change.

1:34.5

He talks about seeking unconditional surrender.

1:38.3

He also talks about inciting a revolution in the streets of Iran.

1:43.9

But at the same time, he also has engaged in

1:46.8

wishful thinking about finding an Iranian Delci Rodriguez with whom he can make a deal. And if you

1:52.4

listen to what the Pentagon is saying, they're not talking about any of that. Their focus is,

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