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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

The Strange Legacy of Nazi Drug Programs: MKUltra, Hitler, Meth and More (with Norman Ohler)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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On today's episode, Andy sits down with German author, journalist, and screenwriter Norman Ohler. Norman is best known for his non-fiction book Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany, which explores the widespread use of drugs by Adolf Hitler, the German military, and the Nazi regime during World War II. Published in 2015, the book became an international bestseller and was translated into multiple languages. His latest novel Tripped: Nazi Germany, The CIA and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age explores the links between Nazi Germany, the CIA, and the rise of psychedelics. More recently, Norman has focused research on LSD and its potential to treat conditions like Alzheimer’s disease.  Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: SPONSORS: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Allegiance Gold Go to https://ProtectWithAndy.com to get exclusive lowest pricing on the market for select gold bars or call (844) 790-9191 to talk to an account representative. MTNTOUGH Use code CYBER50 at www.mtntough.com for a full year of the app for just $120 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:46.4

I don't know which institution it did in San Francisco found that new neurons can even grow through the use of psychedelics.

0:56.7

So if that is true

0:58.0

and they found that, but if that is

0:59.6

proven by other studies, it would basically mean

1:01.9

you take psychedelics and you grow

1:03.9

more neurons in your brain.

1:05.7

I mean, you can basically,

1:07.9

you know, just have to tell that to Elon

1:09.8

Musk and he will go nuts about it, you know, just have to tell that to Elon Musk, and he will, he will, he will go nothing about it, you know.

1:16.6

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

1:26.8

We have to organize a social movement.

1:31.3

We have an opportunity to lead by example,

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versus just talking, hot air.

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I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow,

1:40.3

eventually it could change.

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