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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

How Mexican Cartels and China Shape the U.S. Fentanyl Epidemic

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Andy sits down with geopolitical expert and author, Vanda Felbab-Brown to discuss the on-going fight against the fentanyl crisis in the U.S. Vanda is an expert in international conflict and non-traditional security threats, with a focus on insurgency, organized crime, and illicit economies. She serves as a senior fellow in the Strobe Talbott Center for Security, Strategy, and Technology within the Foreign Policy program at Brookings. She is also the director of the Initiative on Nonstate Armed Actors and co-director of the Africa Security Initiative, as well as the Brookings series on opioids, The Opioid Crisis in America: Domestic and International Dimensions. As an author, her books include The Extinction Market: Wildlife Trafficking and How to Counter It, Narco Noir: Mexico’s Cartels, Cops, and Corruption, and Militants, Criminals, and Warlords: The Challenge of Local Governance in an Age of Disorder. In addition, she hosts The Killing Drugs Podcast. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original. Sponsors:  SPONSORS: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Allegiance Gold Go to https://ProtectWithAndy.com to get exclusive lowest pricing on the market for select gold bars or call (844) 790-9191 to talk to an account representative. MTNTOUGH Use code CYBER50 at www.mtntough.com for a full year of the app for just $120. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:26.3

operations, at least in an observer role, being able to be part of joint fusion intelligence

0:32.3

centers, so that we also have eyes and can prompt some of the necessary cleanup of law enforcement and military institutions in Mexico.

0:43.5

This is a very hard task.

0:44.7

The Mexican government doesn't want it.

0:46.8

But this is what I would be focusing my diplomacy on, not the satisfaction of a missile strike, but on bringing U.S. law enforcement back in a sustainable

1:00.0

way to Mexico and telling the Mexican government, this is not just for us.

1:06.0

This is not only a payoff for tariffs.

1:09.0

This is in the interest of your state, your people.

1:14.4

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work

1:20.8

that has no end. We have to organize a social movement.

1:34.0

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

1:39.9

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

1:41.9

You know, the people are the ones that can make the change.

1:47.7

What's going on, everybody?

1:52.0

Welcome back to Change Agents in Ironclad Original, presented by Firecracker Farm.

1:56.9

Today, we're going to be talking about the fentanyl crisis in the United States.

1:58.9

Unless you have been living under a rock. And even if you have been living under a rock,

2:01.4

you have probably heard the term fentanyl. It ties into our war against drugs. The jury, I think,

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