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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

The Stormy D and Cardi B Edition

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Sexuality, News

4.2897 Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

This week, Hanna, June and Noreen discuss Stormy Daniels, Cardi B with producer Veralyn Williams, and microcheating.


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0:00.0

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0:03.1

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:11.0

Welcome to the Double X Gab Fest for Thursday, March 22nd, the Stormy D and Cardi B edition.

0:16.6

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of NPR's Infisibilia.

0:19.4

And in the New York studios, we have June Thomas, managing producer of Slate Podcasts. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah. And Noreen Malone of New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hi, Hannah. Listeners, just so you know, if I sound a little different today, it's because I'm recording from home. It is a snow day, no husband, no babysitter. So there's only me and the television. So that's why I might

0:40.9

sound a little different today. But anyway, patience, patience, it should be okay. So listeners,

0:47.6

a bunch of you asked me for some anthropological knowledge about the theory of the patriarchy.

0:53.6

It's a book that's not actually published

0:56.0

yet, but it will be published in a year. It's by a guy named Richard Rangham, W-R-A-N-G-H-A-M.

1:02.0

He's a guy who I interviewed, and he, the theory is also proposed by another guy named Christopher

1:08.3

Boe-B-O-E-H-M. I will send. I will put a couple of links on our show page, but you can look up those two guys in their theory, and the book will be published next year. So you can look for it. I'm not sure what the title is yet. All right, guys. Should we get started? Let's us. Yeah. Okay. Let us first. Stormy, Daniels, and Company, the women trying to get out of nondisclosure agreements

1:30.0

to talk about their affairs with Trump. Is this something we should care about? Second, Cardi B, the first female rapper with a hit single since the late 90s. We talk about the particular brand of feminists that she represents. And finally, micro cheatingating, the latest pop psychology term in relationships.

1:46.8

Is it good or wicked?

1:48.2

Should we all be microcheating or should none of us be microcheating?

1:51.6

And in our Slate Plus today, we have the Women Be Shopping.

1:55.6

Ben Carson's secretary of housing and urban development blames his 30,000 dining room table on his wife. She's the one who bought it, and he added it's excessive. So is it sexist to blame your own excesses on your wife? When I say it that way, it sounds loaded, but it's actually more complicated than that. Trust me. It really, really is. All right, Stormy and Company. So first it was just Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, although Stormy Daniels is a better name, I think, than Stephanie Clifford. She was suing to get out of arrangement so she could talk about her affair with President Trump. And then this week, Karen McDougal, who's a former Playboy model, also sued to be led out of an agreement requiring her silence. And a third woman,

2:35.6

Summer Zervos, which rhymes with Davos, but not really, is suing Trump for defamation because

2:42.0

he said that she made up allegations that he groped her. So there are lawsuits coming left and right

2:48.5

against our president. Before we talk about the merits and why we should care, if we should care, can we lay the

2:55.4

groundwork? Because even though Stormy Daniels is not supposed to talk about her affair,

2:59.5

we already know quite a lot about it because she did talk about it in In Touch Weekly in an

3:04.5

article published in 2011 before she signed any kind of agreement.

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