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Welcome to the Double X Gap Fest for Thursday, March 8th, the Hope for Hicks edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of NPR's Invisibilia.

In the New York studios, we have June Thomas, a managing producer of Slate Podcasts. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah. Happy International Women's Day. Thank you. I am an international woman. That's how I think of myself. A femme du monde. Oh, way. Fem du monde. Fem de monde. Thank you. And Noreen Malone. Hi, Noreen of New York Magazine.

Hello. I'm a domestic woman myself. You're just like a local gal. Yeah.

Just a local woman. So listeners, we heard from a lot of you about the pain of endometriosis after our discussion about Lena Dunham and her particular procedure.

Thank you for sharing. We appreciate it. We do our best with sensitive medical topics that

none of us have particular experience with, but it is always dicey to talk about. So thanks for

gently schooling us on these matters. Okay, let's jump into our show. Our topics today,

how to raise boys. There is an idea out there that our boys are ailing and failing and suddenly

lots of theories about what we should do about it. So we discuss. Second is Hope Hicks,

the Trump communication director, who has recently left the White House. We discussed the enigma that is H-H, Hope Hicks. And finally, this American life gives us a very different kind of Me Too story this week. So we talk about that. And then in our Slate Plus segment, Noreen, you want to tell us what we're talking about?

Sure. We are talking about whether

it is sexist for people to think that Melania Trump should not have gotten the so-called

genius visa for her work as a model. June, you came in on a model genius visa, right? I did. I did.

Because I, you know, I am a model of extraordinary ability, but then I won the lottery. So, you know, I was a two-ful. Yes. You were on the cover of, what would you have been on the cover of, like, cover of in your activist days? Well, I was on the cover of off our backs, so maybe that's it. You were. There you go. That's what I had in mind.

I was one of the editor, so yeah, I put myself on the cover one time. Cool. Is that on eBay? Can I buy that on eBay? I don't know that I have a copy, weirdly enough. Is anyone Googling right now, June Thomas, Off Our Backs? I was wearing a really cool jacket also, but that's another thing. Always. Always. All right. Well, forget about the women. It's

time to talk about the boys and how to raise those boys. Wow, so many articles in the last few

weeks putting out this idea that boys are in trouble. It's not a new idea. It's been around for like

15, 20, 20 years. I remember the first article I read about boys being

in trouble in school. But between the school shootings and me too, it feels like this is a

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