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The Stock Market Is Broken… K Shaped Economy

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The stock market is broken! Today we talk about a broad range of economic, market, and behavioral topics, beginning with the cognitive bias of sunk costs and how it affects personal decisions, investing, and business choices, emphasizing the importance of recognizing losses and cutting them early. We also explore recent market signals, including distress in the credit and auto-loan markets, and the K-shaped economy. We also critique media and policy narratives, pointing to propaganda around climate change and the pivot to nuclear energy. It's important to be aware and prudent in your observations in uncertain times. We also remark on the rising cost of living, currency devaluation (the end of the penny), and market performance trends.

We discuss... 

  • Sunk cost bias was illustrated with examples in plumbing repairs, investing in stocks like QQQ, and hiring ineffective marketers in business.
  • People often continue bad relationships or investments due to the psychological discomfort of admitting mistakes.
  • Non-decisions are still decisions, and it's important to consciously choose a path rather than defaulting to inaction.
  • The conversation shifted to propaganda in media and politics, including discussions about global warming and COVID messaging.
  • Nuclear energy is the only scalable solution for energy needs if climate change is real, and that AI and technology interests influenced the shift in media focus.
  • We discussed deliberate and coincidental market messaging, citing examples of Fed statements and past financial crises like 2008.
  • Michael Burry's recent fund positions and put options on Nvidia and Palantir were discussed as a signal for investors to pay attention, though not necessarily to follow blindly.
  • Extreme caution in investing is recommended, particularly in markets or sectors one does not fully understand, such as the stressed auto-loan market.
  • Signs of market stress were highlighted, including unusual moves in the SOFR rate and subprime auto-loan distress, though not on the scale of the 2008 mortgage crisis.
  • The K-shaped economy was explained, where asset holders benefit from price inflation while those without assets see income stagnation and rising expenses.
  • Rising housing costs and mortgage challenges were linked to declining fertility rates and generational effects on college and workforce participation.
  • Indicators of market sentiment, including CNN's Fear and Greed Index, were analyzed, with a caution not to follow them blindly as they often lag or mislead.
  • Observations were made on shifting consumer behaviors, including declining cash usage and businesses refusing pennies as payment.
  • Future discussion topics were teased, including REIT investment opportunities and year-to-date market performance insights.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | Mergent College Advisors

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:11.0

Hello, Smart Money Street podcast listeners.

0:12.8

Welcome to this week's show.

0:13.8

My name's Kirk Chisholm.

0:14.7

I'll be your host.

0:15.4

And today I'm joined with Doug Hagerin.

0:17.0

Hey, Doug.

0:17.9

Hey, Kirk.

0:18.7

Another great Friday with you.

0:54.5

Yeah, yeah, great to have you in the show. I'm back to having a house issues again. Thankful to be a homeowner. Well, I was going to start by asking if you got snow because they got dumped on in Vermont. I didn't know if any of that reached out to you. We did not get snow, but I do expect some soon and I got to put my backyard hockey rink up soon. So that'll be fun too. That'll be awesome. So what's going on with the house this time? Yeah. So last week we had a piece of the equipment in the heats of hot water for the showers. I think it was called a circulator. Do you have an instant hot water heater? Is that way? No, we have a tank. We don't have a tank. Okay. But yeah, so anyway, so there's a circulator that it helps. But it was making a loud sound. It was very scary

0:59.7

sound. So got somebody out here and they decided to replace it. It was within warranty. So they

1:04.8

should have done it for free, but I couldn't figure out who installed it before the house was

1:09.9

sold. So I had to pay somebody where I probably could have gotten the warranty from the other plumber who, you know, it broke. Anyway, so I had to do that. And then a week later, I had to have him out again because it was making the sound. I'm like, what the hell's going on? And so the guy came out. He's apologetic. The next night, it sounded again. I'm like, what the hell's going on. So this other guy comes out. He's like, oh, he was nice, but he didn't, he didn't fix it. X, Y, Z's happening. He gave me this laundry list of things that I was like, okay, I'm going to shop this around. This is a very expensive quote for like, you want a whole new system and all new pipes. I'm like, no, no, no, we're not doing that.

1:45.3

Let me go find my friendly neighborhood plumber. Didn't you know it's $1,000 for every project these days minimum? That's just what they do. They just throw up the $1,000 minimum out there, Kirk. Well, here's the funny thing. In my other house, I was renting. I knew the equipment. Like it's not my equipment, but I understood it because stuff happens and you figure it out.

2:02.9

I don't know those equipment yet. So I'm still new. I'm always afraid of getting taken advantage of because I'm not a plumber, right? I don't know. I have an electrician. I have a guy. You know, I have my guy who I trust and he takes care of me. I had him do a bunch stuff. He was good. You know, took care of him. We're all good.

2:17.6

Plummer, I don't have takes care of me. I had him do a bunch stuff. He was good.

2:19.2

You know, took care of him.

2:19.7

We're all good.

2:33.4

Plummer, I don't have a plumber yet. And there's no such thing as a non-emergency plumbing incident. They're always an emergency. Only in construction. That's it. Yeah. You know, I was like, well, I need somebody. So now I need to find somebody that I can just call.

2:34.4

I'm like, here's what going on.

2:34.9

Can you help me?

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