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Here is a big existential question for every media company today.

Do they fight the AI tech overlords or do they just take their money?

So far, most of them are taking the money.

But a few are fighting.

One of them is Zip Davis.

This is Peter Kafka, the host of channels.

And on this week's episode, I'm talking to Zip Davis,

CEO of Vek Shah, who tells me he's kind of optimistic about the media business

and why he's taking on the people behind ChatGBT.

That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

Okay. That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network. I'm Matthew Iglesias. I am here with Ezra Klein. I think what we really want to talk about today is the fiscal stimulus talks that may or may not be happening and sort of what that means for the American economy, for sort of the political

outlook for next year. But first, we are recording on Thursday the day after the vice

presidential debate. And I do think we should talk some about it. I mean, it would be,

it would be really weird, I think, occurrence in electoral politics

if a vice presidential debate turned out to be important for the outcome of the election.

That would be a strange thought process on the part of people's minds.

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