The States and Redistricting
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Lera Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. Here's a reality with the Supreme Court |
| 0:16.4 | canceling much of the Voting Rights Act. The court locked the federal government out of the redistricting |
| 0:21.6 | debate to a large degree and gave it almost entirely to the states. You probably know that. |
| 0:27.1 | And it's just the latest example of how much political change in whatever direction now runs through state capitals. |
| 0:34.6 | Texas and California and others have now changed their congressional districts |
| 0:38.8 | just this week, South Carolina, surprised some people by deciding not to lock out their only |
| 0:44.9 | black member of Congress, Jim Clyburn. The New York state budget finally got approved last night |
| 0:50.2 | with many policy changes that respond to the court and to the Trump administration. |
| 0:54.7 | We'll look at some of those specifics in our next segment. |
| 0:57.7 | So political change in whatever direction runs so much through the state capitals now. |
| 1:03.4 | It runs through Trenton and Albany and Sacramento. |
| 1:06.5 | Yes, through Austin and Baton Rouge, through Columbus and Columbia, through Madison and Tallahassee, |
| 1:12.4 | less through Washington and more through Lincoln. |
| 1:15.3 | That's the capital of Nebraska. |
| 1:16.7 | You didn't know that, did you? |
| 1:18.0 | Well, one former New York state lawmaker is now the co-founder of a movement called the States |
| 1:24.6 | Project and author of a new book called The Fourth Branch, |
| 1:28.5 | How State Government Can Save Our Union. Daniel Squadron argues that not just during the Trump |
| 1:34.3 | years, but over the last 15 to 20 years, states have done more harm or good than Congress |
| 1:41.0 | on almost every issue. Let's talk. Daniel Squadron used to represent much of Western |
| 1:46.4 | Brooklyn in the New York State Senate as a Democrat. He's also been an aide to Senator Chuck Schumer, |
| 1:51.4 | among other things. Again, his book is called The Fourth Branch, How State Government, |
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