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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

The State SLAMS Lori Vallow Daybell's Retrial Motion in Legal Smackdown

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The fight isn’t over. Lori Vallow Daybell wants a retrial—but prosecutors just hit back hard. In this episode, we dive into their fiery response, the high-stakes arguments, and what it all means. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Hidden Gems.

0:02.0

For those who are tuning in for the first time, I'm Laura Matthias, a former broadcast journalist.

0:08.0

This is hidden true crime where we uncover the hidden motives of unimaginable crime.

0:14.0

And one of those crimes that we have been covering, or I should say uncovering, is the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case.

0:21.7

And we have been doing this uncovering what is hidden in this case for five and a half years,

0:27.3

nearly six years.

0:28.1

Lori, a convicted murderer, just keeps on fighting, doesn't she?

0:33.6

And to remind everyone where we left off last week, Lori Valo Debel filed a motion for a retrial

0:42.3

in her latest conspiracy to murder conviction, the killing of her then husband, Charles Ballo.

0:47.9

And she cited five specific reasons. Well, and now the state of Arizona or the prosecution, state prosecution,

0:57.0

same same, they have officially responded. And really, it's fascinating. Hidden True Crimes

1:03.0

Reporting is mentioned in the state's response. And we are going to go over all of it today.

1:09.4

For those who want to review, though, of Lori's retrial filing.

1:13.2

Again, we did a video on that report last week, breaking it all down if you would like to watch or listen on our podcast.

1:21.2

And the link will be in the description of this episode.

1:24.1

But for a quick summary, the five reasons Lori cited that she thinks that she deserves

1:29.3

a retrial were, one, jury misconduct in regards to Juror 15 or Carl's statement directly after

1:37.7

the verdict was read, two, the preclusion of Tiley and Alex's statements and in a miscible,

1:47.7

amissible, I was wearing a retainer earlier, forgive me,

1:55.3

expert testimony by Detective Daniel Coons, and three, a discovery violation for a prosecutorial misconduct, and finally, fine, the court's lack of impartiality. As for the state's response, we are going to jump in

2:03.5

because it is a lot. And like I said, this is, this is fascinating. I'm so glad that we're going to

2:09.0

break this down together. When it comes to responding to Lori's claim of juror misconduct. The motion filed by the states,

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