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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Pastor Turned Sex Offender Tortures Grandmother with a Nail Gun | The HORRIFYING Case of Jeffrey Zizz

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In April of 2025, Marcia Norman was reported as missing. What would come next is something no one expected... Join Lauren as she breaks the story down in preparation for Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias, to give his analysis on the next episode. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Sponsors: Cornbread Hemp: Go to cornbreadhemp.com/Hidden and enter the code HIDDEN at checkout for 30% off Audio Credits: KOMO News King 5 News Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

My name is Lauren Matthias and this is hidden true crime where we delve into the hidden motives of current cases, unimaginable crimes.

0:08.8

And today's case, it is a lot. And we are going to cover or uncover everything we need to know.

0:16.5

So as we get older, tasks that used to seem so simple begin requiring more effort, especially

0:22.6

for our elderly population, who eventually have no choice but to rely on others for help

0:28.6

doing all sorts of things they used to be able to do on their own.

0:32.9

And as a society, when we have the cable guy over to fix the TV or when we hire a plumber or handyman

0:38.9

to help, there is a level of trust that we give these strangers we hire, these strangers who

0:44.8

must enter our homes, our most personal and most vulnerable spaces. Unfortunately, the case that we

0:53.3

are going to discuss today involves someone violating that

0:57.2

trust in the most horrific way possible. The handyman that 82-year-old Marsha Norman hired

1:04.5

seemed to be the pinnacle of trustworthy. I mean, he was not only former military and a married family man, but he was also

1:13.5

a church pastor. On paper, his resume seemed like someone an 82-year-old female could safely ask for help.

1:21.6

However, looking to this guy's past led me down one of the most disturbing rabbit holes you can only imagine. Marcia

1:30.0

unknowingly and innocently invited a monster into her home, masked as someone just willing to help

1:37.3

an older woman who had no choice but to trust others to help her with her daily tasks.

1:43.7

Trust me when I tell you that as we peel back

1:47.3

each layer of this case, the more sad, depraved, and infuriating it becomes. And I just need to

1:56.2

warn you before we go any further. This case has graphic, very graphic,

2:01.5

and potentially triggering details

2:03.1

that involve children and the elderly.

2:05.7

So please keep this in mind

2:07.9

before we delve into this heartbreaking true crime story

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