The State of the U.S.-Turkey Relationship
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 30 April 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
When President Biden entered office, he inherited a bilateral relationship with Turkey that was strained to the limits by the growing independent streak in that country's foreign policy—and one that had been pushed in unfamiliar directions by his predecessor's direct and often unpredictable personal relationship with Turkey's longstanding president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. This past week, the Biden administration made its first major move on the U.S.-Turkey relationship by recognizing the atrocities committed against Armenians by Ottoman authorities in the early 20th century as a genocide, a move that prior presidents had avoided for fear of how Turkey might react.
To discuss what these developments may mean for this key bilateral relationship, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Nicholas Danforth of the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy and Asli Aydıntaşbaş of the European Council on Foreign Relations. They discussed how Turkey views its place in the world, what this means for its alliance with the United States and how the Biden administration is likely to respond moving forward.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | You suddenly had when Erdogan came to power a much stronger and more economically vibrant |
| 0:39.5 | Turkey that could imagine bigger horizons, that could imagine instead of having to hold |
| 0:44.6 | on to what it had, you could imagine really reshaping the region in its image. |
| 0:50.0 | And I think part of the problem is that that temptation got away from Erdogan, that with |
| 0:54.4 | the grandiose historical rhetoric, with the disdain for the West, with the conviction that |
| 0:59.4 | the West was in decline and you're entering a more multi-polar world. |
| 1:02.8 | In the Arab Spring, some of the upheaval that was taking place in the Middle East all |
| 1:07.5 | came together to enable Erdogan to refashion his history, refashion this longstanding desire |
| 1:13.4 | for national greatness in a way that suddenly came up against NATO, came up against the West |
| 1:18.3 | and put Turkey in conflict with the very actors that I would argue helped bring it to the |
| 1:24.2 | place that it is today. |
| 1:26.2 | I'm Scott Aranterson and this is the LawFair podcast for April 30th, 2021. |
| 1:32.0 | When President Biden entered office, he inherited a bilateral relationship with Turkey that |
| 1:36.0 | was strained to the limits by the growing independence streak in that country's foreign |
| 1:39.2 | policy, and one that had been pushed in unfamiliar directions by his predecessors direct |
| 1:43.8 | and often unpredictable personal relationship with Turkey's longstanding president, Recep |
| 1:47.9 | Tayyip Erdogan. |
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