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The Lawfare Podcast

After Trump, Episode 4: Prosecuting a President

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In the fourth episode of “After Trump,” the six-part limited podcast series based on the book, "After Trump: Reconstructing the Presidency," by Bob Bauer and Jack Goldsmith, we explore how and when a president is held to account for wild and sometimes criminal behavior.

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Also check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair no bull,

0:27.3

and the aftermath.

0:34.3

Good morning everyone and thank you for being here.

0:43.6

It's May 29th 2019.

0:46.1

DC is in the middle of a muggy, steamy heat wave.

0:49.8

It feels like mid-summer.

0:51.6

Hale is even predicted.

0:54.0

Two years ago the acting attorney general asked me to serve as special counsel and he

1:00.4

created the special counsel's office.

1:03.0

After years of round the clock speculation and silent investigation, much of it conducted

1:08.2

in skiffs, the hushed compartments that are basically tombs for deeply classified information,

1:15.2

special counsel Robert Mueller finally speaks.

1:19.2

This is the day much of America has been waiting for.

1:22.1

As his office has issued indictment after indictment, Mueller himself has stayed mum.

1:28.3

He's come to be regarded as an oracle and indeed his words are delfic.

1:35.6

The appointment order directed the office to investigate Russian interference in the 2016

1:41.7

presidential election.

1:43.6

This included investigating any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals

1:49.5

associated with the Trump campaign.

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