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The state of the AI trade: ChatGPT turns three 12/1/25

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Management, Cnbc, Tech, Faang, Investing, Business, Disruptors, Technology

4.566 Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

OpenAI's ChatGPT turned three this week. As the AI trade enters its fourth year, OpenAI finds its position shifting from disruptor to incumbent. We dig into the themes of the first three years of the AI trade and look to where the trade is going and what's at stake for the likes of the megacap players like Google, Microsoft, Meta and Amazon.

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0:00.0

Chad GPT turned three years old this week. In today's tech check, our dear Debois is taking a look at the shift from disruptor to incumbent. Good morning, Dee.

0:08.8

Hey, good morning, Carl. So chat GPT, yes, it changed the world, but it also awoke a giant. If year one was about magic and disruption, year three is about math and scale. It's a game that the incumbents like Google, they were built to win. Now,

0:21.3

year one, let's call it the model era. The narrative was code red, chat GPT as the Google killer.

0:26.3

The moat was simple, who has the smartest chat bot, and the winner was a startup that could

0:31.1

move fastest and break things. But look at year three. That has changed. Google isn't dead. It's

0:36.3

approaching a $4 trillion market cap.

0:38.4

And the moat has moved. Gemini 3 is widening the performance gap over GPT5 in key areas.

0:43.7

The moat is now the hardware, the cloud, the distribution to billions of users.

0:48.4

Now, this is this high cost is also why the financing has changed. In the early days, innovation was funded by

0:54.9

VC checks and optimism. Today, it is debt and CAPEX. OpenAI's partners are piling up $100 billion

1:00.6

in debt, while Google is spending from a cash-rich balance sheet. Now, of course, all of that

1:06.7

industrial capital, it only matters if users are actually buying in. So the true validation of

1:12.1

this trillion dollar bet, it's user behavior. Look at this data from similar web. It shows a

1:16.9

critical shift. While ChatGBT BT still dominates raw volume, excuse me, the average user is now

1:24.0

spending more minutes per session on Gemini. So that is a stickiness flip.

1:28.1

It suggests that users aren't just searching anymore on Gemini.

1:31.0

They're using AI for deeper work.

1:33.6

Now, the momentum supports that.

1:35.2

ChatGBT's mobile growth is flattening while Gemini's app usage is going vertical

1:41.2

comparatively.

1:42.2

Now, this also underscores, guys, the danger in the AI trade going forward.

1:46.1

Investors, they have piled into Google as though this is a winner-take-all trade,

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