The State of Rule of Law in the U.S.: National Security and Law Enforcement
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 17 October 2018
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
On October 3, Benjamin Wittes co-hosted an event with his Brookings colleague, Norm Eisen, on The State of Rule of Law in the U.S. Ben moderated a panel on national security and law enforcement with Lawfare contributor and long-time Department of Justice official Mary McCord; former head of the DEA Chuck Rosenberg; and Representative Adam Schiff, ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
They spoke about the impact of today’s political environment on national security investigations in the Executive Branch; Congress’s conduct in this recent spate of such investigations; and how—under normal circumstances—these two branches are supposed to interact.
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:30.0 | What the Russians did in meddling with our democracy is nothing compared with what this administration is doing to meddle with our democracy. |
| 0:44.0 | The Russians couldn't cause us to distrust our own free press. |
| 0:47.0 | They couldn't cause us to undermine the independence of the Justice Department. |
| 0:50.0 | They couldn't cause us to denigrate in the little or unjudiciary. |
| 0:53.0 | Only we could do that to ourselves. |
| 0:55.0 | But the big picture I think, the big untold story here, |
| 0:58.0 | and something that I would like to have us have open hearings on, |
| 1:02.0 | and private examination and oversight of, is the Russian attack on our democracy was not in isolation. |
| 1:09.0 | The Russians have been going after democracies in Europe and elsewhere, |
| 1:14.0 | but more broadly than that is the fact that the whole idea of liberal democracy right now is under assault. |
| 1:21.0 | We see a rise with authoritarianism around the world. |
| 1:24.0 | This poses, I think, among the most significant national security threats to our country. |
| 1:30.0 | I'm the Kalefogel, and this is the LawFair podcast October 16, 2018. |
| 1:37.0 | On October 3, Benjamin Whittis co-hosted an event with his Brookings colleague, Norm Eisen, |
| 1:42.0 | on the state of law in the US, then Whittis moderated a panel on national security and law enforcement, |
| 1:48.0 | contributor, and long-time Department of Justice official Mary McCourt, |
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