Just so you know, this episode contains discussions of sexual assault.

If you or someone you know is a victim of sexual violence, there's help available by calling the

National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1,800 656, 4,773.

The National Domestic Violence Hotline is at 1,800, 799, 723. I'm not thinking even so much about what protections could Joe Biden offer. I'm thinking about how do we prevent an absolute cry. We're already in a health care crisis, but it could get so much worse.

And I don't know that voters completely understand just how much worse it could get?

Hello and welcome to Why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes. We've got another edition today of With Pod 2024, the stakes and today is very important and also a little different than the last few episodes.

So what we're doing this year in the run up to the election is we're doing this series on with

pod called the stakes in which for the first time since the 19th century we've got two candidates

for each major party who have both been president hasn't happened in a very long

time and what that allows you to do is just compare the records what What did one do as president? What did the

other do as president? We did that on immigration. We've done it on taxes.

Today we're going to do that although it's going to be a bit different because

the issue that we're talking about abortion and reproductive rights has undergone a

revolutionary change, a seismic change and it happened temporally under

Joe Biden as president but the cause of it, of course, were the three members of the US Supreme Court that Donald Trump appointed.

And so you can't really do the same apples to apples.

What was abortion policy like under Trump and under Biden because they're completely

different landscapes. They completely changed. As soon as Roe was overturned, all sorts of

bans on abortion that would have been unconstitutional and illegal, became constitutional and legal by Fiat, of the court.

So instead what we're going to do is we're going to look at what the result of overturning

row has been, which I think you would say that Donald Trump and he

would say himself is the cause of Roe being overturned. He is the one that

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