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🗓️ 2 August 2019
⏱️ 9 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to more or less on the BBC World Service. This week we talked to the |
0:07.9 | founder of the fact checking organisation AfricaCheck, Peter Conliffe Jones. He recently stood |
0:14.4 | down as its executive director and came to talk to us about what he's learnt about misinformation. |
0:20.7 | Peter says he first came up with an idea for a fact checking organisation while he was |
0:25.7 | working in Nigeria for the news agency AFP. It was a very exciting time to be a journalist |
0:31.8 | and to witness the transition to civilian rule. It was the late 90s and early 2000s, |
0:39.0 | military rule had just ended in the country. There was a vaccination campaign that was launched |
0:44.7 | to try to eradicate polio. This was in 2002. I saw claims being made that the campaign was not |
0:52.9 | an attempt to eradicate the disease but an attempt to reduce the world's Muslim population. |
0:57.9 | The claims were that there was an anti-fatility agent in the vaccine and that by giving women |
1:05.1 | the vaccine you reduce the population. The claims were completely unfounded but they were reported |
1:11.1 | as fact and they were picked up by a very prominent government in Carno in northern Nigeria |
1:17.4 | with a large Muslim population and he introduced a vaccine ban. Last year we went back to Nigeria |
1:24.7 | and interviewed some of the people who now today suffer from polio because of the vaccine ban |
1:30.9 | that was introduced. I'd seen the impact when I worked for AFP in Nigeria that misinformation |
1:37.6 | can have on people's real lives and I thought that something needed to be done to try to tackle |
1:42.9 | that problem. It took a few years but Peter eventually got the opportunity to launch a fact-checking |
1:48.8 | agency. Africa Check was born and started out in a small office in Johannesburg South Africa in 2012 |
1:55.3 | with a four-person team. With some funding over the next seven years the team grew to 30. |
2:01.6 | We didn't want this to be only an Anglophone project and so we set up a very small team again |
2:08.9 | in Dacca in Senegal and then quite swiftly at the end of 2016, early 2017 in Lagos in Nigeria and |
2:17.7 | in Nairobi in Kenya. Their primary function is to take claims in the news or on social media that |
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