Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Jasmine Singer. And this is Marianne Sullivan. And on this week's show, Marianne, will be joined by Dr. Christopher Carter, who is a pastor, a professor, a vegan, and the author of the

extraordinary new book, The Spirit of Soul Food, Race, Faith, and Food Justice. Wow, I love it.

That's cool. How often do we find somebody who puts together all of these things in one place

that obviously, once you listen to him,

you know that they all belong together. Food justice, veganism, and soul food. Such a fascinating

interview. I want everybody to hear it. Me too. And on the flock bonus segment this week,

I'll be continuing that conversation with Christopher. And if you are a flock member,

you will get a link to the bonus segment in your email on the Tuesday after this podcast episode goes up. Or you can always find it on the flock Facebook group. If you are not a member of the

flock and you can afford it, you can join for $10 a month at our henhouse.org slash donate.

Also, if you're a flock member, please join us for our flock first Friday Zoom calls,

which are once a month on the first Friday of the month at 4 p.m. Eastern,

where we have some really inspiring guests, some really cool conversations about activism

and animals and life on planet Earth.

So if you're a member of the flock,

check out the flock Facebook group for updates or write to us at info at our headhouse.org.

And you could set up one-on-one conversations with me,

also if you're in the flock,

by emailing info at our headhouse.org.

So before we get started with our interview, it was Passover and Easter last week, and we did both.

We didn't do Ramadan. I feel kind of bad. I mean, everybody was making such a fuss about the

fact that the three of them came at the same time, thinking that that was going to change the

world. I'm not sure the world has changed, but I have my fingers crossed. Yeah, I agree. I could use a little change making when it comes to the world. But in the meantime,

...