Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Marianne Sullivan. And this is Jasmine Singer. And on this week's show, Jasmine is going to be joined by Danielle Hanash, who is the executive director of Blackberry Creek Sanctuary in California.

And she is also one of the founders of the Leap program, which is this amazing new program for

kids who want to learn more about farmed animals and they want to develop their leadership

skills. And they would prefer that nobody had to die in order for them to do those things.

Think about that.

That's put very delicately as always,

Marianne. But we too discuss the leap program in depth and it's very inspiring and I got a lot out of

this conversation with Danielle and I know you will too. On this week's flock bonus segment,

I will be continuing my conversation with Danielle. So if you are a

flock member, you will get a link to the bonus segment in your email on the Tuesday after this

podcast episode goes up. Or you can find it on the flock Facebook group. And if you're not a member

of the flock and you can afford it, you can join for $10 a month at our henhouse.org

slash donate. Also, if you are a flock member, please join us for our flock first Friday

Zoom calls, which are once a month on the first Friday of the month. Someone's coming up soon at 4 p.m.

Eastern. And we have so many inspiring guests and a lot of really great conversations

about activism, about animals, about life, about this, about that. So if you're a member of the

flock, check out the flock Facebook group for updates or write to us at info at our henhouse.org.

And if you want, you can set up one-to-one conversations with Jasmine.

Yeah, do it. That'll be fun. So before we get to our interview today, I wanted to share

that I went to Seneca Falls, New York, this past weekend, and I went to the Women's Rights

National Historical Museum. It's totally

free because it's a national park. And it was just so inspiring. Seneca Falls itself is kind

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