Welcome to the advisory opinions podcast. This is David French with Sarah Izzger and we have

got a very special pod today, a very, very special podcast today. One that I am particularly

excited about because it is, this is probably the first podcast Sarah that is going to go

all in on sports and law. And I can't wait. Do you want to introduce our guest?

Absolutely. This is going to be the nerdiest sports conversation that you, listener, have

ever been a part of. I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that. Our special, special

guest today is Professor Mitchell Burman of the University of Pennsylvania. But before

that, he was at the University of Texas where he was the professor of one husband of the

pod. In fact, husband of the pod was one of his TAs and raved about him. So when I was

talking to husband of the pod about what our fun, nerd topic should be back in like March

or April, he said, well, obviously you have to talk to Professor Burman because he gave

me an A. But also he has a textbook called The Jurisprudence of Sport. Sports and

games as legal systems. This is the coolest. He became nerd famous about 10 years ago for

a conversation about instant replay. But we have that and so much more to talk about with

him. The Jurisprudence of Sport. Hold on to your nerd hats.

Well, this Professor Burman, welcome. Thanks. It's great to be here.

So maybe we need to start big picture. Tell us about the Jurisprudence of Sport because

this is not sports law. This is like the opposite of sports law.

Yeah, it's not sports law. I don't know if it's the opposite. It'd be hard for me to figure

out exactly what it has into the opposite of sports law. But it's not the same thing.

So I take sports law to involve the application of settled bodies of law for less settled

bodies of law to issues and disputes that arise in the field of sport. So sports law

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