The Spirit and Flesh of Thomas Jefferson with Thomas Kidd

Life and Books and Everything

Clearly Reformed

Books, Religion & Spirituality, Arts, Christianity

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🗓️ 30 June 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Kevin welcomes Tommy Kidd to LBE to talk about Tommy’s new biography on Thomas Jefferson. How should we understand Jefferson’s many inconsistencies and contradictions? How do we make sense of his significant moral failings? Was he a Christian? Is his legacy worth commemorating and celebrating? Kevin and Tommy talk about these questions and many others in an hour-long discussion that goes deep into history and helps us think about the Declaration of Independence that Americans will celebrate in just a few days.

Timestamps:

Intro and Guest: Thomas Kidd [0:00-6:32]

The Discipline of Writing [6:33-10:14]

Jefferson: Historical Hypocrite? [10:15-32:41]

Sally Hemmings [32:42-38:20

Jefferson's Religion [38:21-52:47]

The Mammoth Cheese Episode [52:48-56:33]

Jefferson vs. Patrick Henry [56:34-59:06]

Father of the University of Virginia [59:07-1:04:02]

Why Celebrate Jefferson? [1:04:03-1:10:46]

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Thomas Jefferson: A Biography of Spirit and Flesh: https://a.co/d/elVxdLe

Transcript

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0:00.0	Greetings and salutations. Welcome back to life and books and everything.
0:17.5	This is Kevin D. Young, and I'm glad to be joined with my special guest, Dr. Thomas S.
0:25.6	Kid, Tommy. I'll turn it over to him in just a moment. But I do want to thank all of our listeners who have followed with LBE throughout this season. And I'm going to take a break over the summer.
0:40.6	So I think this is the last podcast for a little bit.
0:44.2	But the timing is good here because we're going to talk about Tommy's book on Thomas Jefferson,
0:48.7	right as we come into the 4th of July weekend.
0:51.3	But I'm grateful for Crossway sponsorship throughout this season and
0:55.7	also Westminster Books at various points and be looking forward, Lord willing, to be back
1:02.5	at the end of the summer, beginning of the fall with a new season of guests and we'll have
1:07.2	some time to have Colin and Justin back on as well. So for this last episode, last not least, Tommy, thank you for being here.
1:20.2	And just tell us a little bit about yourself, about your education background, your faith,
1:27.2	and about the move that you and your family
1:29.1	just made. And then we'll jump into the book. Sure. Well, I grew up in South Carolina and went to
1:35.9	Clemson University. Mostly that was just because I liked Clemson football. Yeah. But I was, I had a, my best friend in high school was a believer and he was sharing the
1:50.4	gospel with me and he got involved with the navigators at Clemson and that's how I became
1:56.5	a Christian as he led me through an evangelistic study.
2:00.2	So I became a Christian my freshman year at
2:03.1	at Clemson and over time both got more intellectually engaged as a person and as a believer
2:14.0	and I got interested in doing graduate work in history.
2:20.0	And so I ended up going to Notre Dame for a Ph.D.
2:25.3	And working with George Marston, who some listeners may know his biography of Jonathan Edwards
2:31.2	and other work in American religious history.
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