The Spiel Saturday Show
The Gist
Mike Pesca
4.4 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 16 August 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Today on The Gist we air two spiels from earlier in the week. One about the CDC shooting in Atlanta and then one about Matt Taibbi's murder stat takedown of D.C backfires.
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| 0:00.0 | It's Saturday. It's the Saturday show. We usually do one from the vault and one from the week. |
| 0:07.7 | I say usually, I don't even know if that's true 50% of the time. We often, a plurality of the time, we do that, and I'm throwing out the format today. |
| 0:15.8 | We had a couple good spiels this week. I was very spielsy. So I'm going to bring you one that I did about a Matt |
| 0:22.8 | Kaibi misstep where he and Walter Kern talked about these ridiculous statistics that Washington, |
| 0:29.7 | D.C.'s police department put out, but they weren't ridiculous. He just got it wrong. And I guess my |
| 0:34.0 | critique, he did correct himself good, so that takes it from, you know, |
| 0:38.0 | an F to a D plus, maybe. But he still posted on all his accounts, the commentary that you'll hear |
| 0:47.4 | without a correction in print so that someone who was joining wouldn't waste or be misguided for the first 32, 35 minutes of his |
| 0:57.6 | segment. There was a lot more that he could have done and that racket news could have done if they |
| 1:02.9 | wanted to really not allow misinformation, not to get into the discourse. Misinformation. That brings us to |
| 1:10.5 | spiel too, where I talked about the shooting |
| 1:13.0 | at the CDC and a lot of maybe subtle points in there, some that are arguable. But if nothing else, |
| 1:21.6 | please come away with the knowledge, the actual information, that the word misinformation just means things that |
| 1:31.0 | are not true, supposed facts that are not so. |
| 1:35.8 | And so if there is a war on misinformation or claims that misinformation killed people, just |
| 1:43.2 | know that that claim is saying getting something wrong has killed people, can be deadly. |
| 1:49.2 | Now, if you want to say, Mike, you're nitpicking when people say misinformation, they really mean |
| 1:53.6 | propaganda of a dangerous kind. No, this whole debate is about the meaning of words. |
| 1:59.1 | So once we say misinformation and disinformation and |
| 2:02.0 | allow that confluence to occur, we're giving permission for people, maybe even the government, |
| 2:08.9 | to say misinformation can and is deadly. And if nothing else, if nothing else, just know |
| 2:15.2 | that people are routinely using misinformation wrong and not in the same sense |
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