Katja Hoyer on Germany’s AFD and the Limits of Calling Someone a Nazi
The Gist
Mike Pesca
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🗓️ 18 August 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Today on The Gist, the Texas Democrats’ walk-out, a dramatic gesture that ultimately did little because they never had the leverage to win. From there he zooms out to Europe, where far-right parties are suddenly topping polls in France, the UK, and now Germany. Historian Katja Hoyer joins to explain what’s behind the AFD’s rise and why calling them “Nazis” isn’t scaring voters away the way it once did. In the spiel, Trump meets Putin in a summit that’s long on spectacle but pretty short on substance, which may be exactly how both of them like it.
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| 1:06.2 | The Dems took flight but lost the fight. |
| 1:09.7 | Now they're back in the heart of Texas |
| 1:12.6 | have breaking news in the congressional redistricting battle Texas Democrats |
| 1:17.4 | signaling that they are closer now to ending a nearly two-week walkout that has |
| 1:23.0 | blocked the controversial mid-decade Republican redraw of this state's congressional maps. |
| 1:30.5 | Well, that effort was doomed because they had no leverage. |
| 1:35.0 | Leverage is pretty important. |
| 1:37.0 | Leverage Trump's rhetoric. |
| 1:39.0 | Even Trump's rhetoric, as we're seeing with Ukraine and the non-peace deal there. |
| 1:44.5 | There was a moment that maybe the Democratic objection to being steamrolled by their Republican |
| 1:50.1 | redistricting rivals in Texas was described as, if not standing a chance, then as the |
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