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Rachel Fulton Brown joins us again. She was on a couple of years ago, I think now, to discuss

her book Mary and the Art of Prayer. She is Professor of History at University of Chicago.

Her page at the Chicago website begins, welcome. I am the professor your other professors warn you about. I love Christianity,

America, and the Western tradition of theology, art, philosophy, music, letters, education. I find that an offensive description, but we're going to

proceed anyway. Welcome, Professor Brown. Yeah, you're one of those professors. No, wait,

I'm confused now. Okay. Well, look, tell us, go to us, how strong would you say? I mean,

our topic today is a little free ranging.

We're not on a book.

We're going to talk about medieval studies a bit.

We're going to talk about higher education in America today. So first question, how strong is, and maybe how explicit is anti-Christianity on elite campuses today?

I'd say it's strong, but it's not explicit.

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