This episode is sponsored by Fully Gemstones.

I've been reminded just how complex and varying, and in some sense is contradictory that the nature of snake is.

It's fear, it's beauty, it's evil, but it's health, isn't it as well? It's the beginning

of life, it's the end of life. I love their livery, I mean, their coloured skins, their smooth,

sinuous movement. If they didn't have to feed on live animals when in captivity, I think I would

also consider having them as a pet.

Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk.

I'm Carol Walton, the voice of jewellery, an author, broadcaster,

and the woman who initiated the role of Jewelry editor at magazines like Tatella and British Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone.

For people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realise they like jewellery,

and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten histories.

So please join me as I tell sparkly tales, meeting all sorts of people,

delving into four centuries of jewellery culture and investigate

what's happening now.

I'm joined today by one of the best known figures in the art world, Philip Mould, OBE,

dealer, gallery owner, art historian, writer and star of BBC's FACAL Fortune.

And we're joined by the jewellery historian Amanda Triozzi, who's a curator and lecturer on the history of Western jewelry design.

And together we are going to unravel the sinuous patterns of the snake in the history of art and

jewellery.

Hello, Philip.

Thank you so much for joining if jewels could talk.

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