We are live on the Hanigel TV.com with a special edition of the Great North Wrestling

podcast, a bit of a deviation, if you will, in so much as I am pleased to welcome today,

a man who is a researcher, an author,

and an otherwise luminary in the true crime and occult fields, the man who has just authored

this book, The Smiley Face Killers, Investigating Suspicious Water Deaths of College

Age men in the U.S. and around the world,

Mr. William Ramsey. Bill, thanks for coming on today.

Jack, thanks for the invite. Great to be here.

This phenomenon is one that's been around for a number of years, but seems to be getting additional traction and even

into subgenres, which we'll discuss recently covered by the Canadian Broadcast Corporation

in their mainstream Fifth Estate program. But before we delve specifically into the smiley face killer phenomenon,

can you talk about your, just to give the viewers a baseline of the work that you've done

in investigations and the true crime occult genre? Yeah, I've written five books. I've done

five documentaries. My first book, Profit of Evil.

Then I wrote Abomination, Children of the Beast, Global Death Cult, which is back in the news.

And then this is my most recent book is The Smileyface Killers. But I've done two documentaries on the same subject. So I try because, like you said, so many things have happened in the last

year and a half. I really always wanted to put together a book so people could have all,

just a corpus that contained all my research. So that's the reason why I wrote the book. But yeah,

a lot of stuff has happened in really Chicago, Austin, Toronto.

It's pretty wrong with me.

Just out of curiosity, what, given the fact that, you know, you've done work on Crowley and other topics,

including the case in Arkansas, etc., what first drew you to the smiley case, smiley face killers?

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