The 'Smashing Machine’ Bomb and A24’s Big-Budget Burden
The Town with Matthew Belloni
The Ringer
4.3 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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| 0:36.1 | It is Monday, October 6th. |
| 0:38.3 | There are many meaningful brands for a movie studio. |
| 0:41.3 | After all, what does it mean to be a Warner Brothers movie or Paramount or Lionsgate? |
| 0:46.3 | But you hear A-24 and you kind of know what it's going to be. |
| 0:49.3 | Quality, boundary pushing, cool even. |
| 0:52.3 | For more than a decade, A-24 has built a brand as the studio that releases the indie movies at, |
| 0:58.0 | if you care about such things, people you know are talking about. |
| 1:01.5 | They've had two best picture winners, Moonlight and everything everywhere all at once, |
| 1:05.7 | and they've cultivated a hip New York image complete with the viral marketing stunts, |
| 1:09.9 | the logo hats. |
| 1:14.3 | They just bought a performance space in the West Village and they're opening a restaurant. |
| 1:16.6 | But that's kind of changing. |
| 1:21.4 | In reality, as we've discussed on the show, 824 has always been a private equity play. |
| 1:25.4 | Initially backed by Guggenheim Partners, where co-founder Daniel Katz worked, |
| 1:28.7 | it's raised millions from institutional investors a few times over the years, launched its own production studio and TV division. Got backing from Josh |
| 1:34.4 | Kushner and Thrive Capital a few years ago. That gave the company a $3.5 billion valuation last |
| 1:40.5 | year. That was up 40% from a 2022 raised by investment firm Stripes. And with that new money |
| 1:47.0 | has come a slightly new and different mandate, namely bigger movies, more produced in-house, |
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