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Savvy Psychologist

The sleep rules you don't actually need to follow

Savvy Psychologist

Macmillan Holdings, LLC

Mental Health, Education, Science, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

547. If you've ever followed every sleep rule in the book and still found yourself wide awake at 2 a.m., this episode is for you. Sleep psychologist Dr. Jade Wu looks at why sleep hygiene—like avoiding screens or caffeine—is a great foundation but won't actually fix a "cavity" like chronic insomnia. She looks at why rigid rule-following can create the very anxiety that keeps you awake.

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0:00.0

What if I told you that being perfect with your sleep habits is actually the very thing keeping you awake?

0:11.5

Let's talk about why it's time to stop working so hard as sleep.

0:16.7

Welcome back to Savvy Psychologist.

0:18.9

I'm one of your interim hosts, Dr. Jade Wu.

0:21.7

Every week will help you face life's challenges with evidence-based approaches, a sympathetic

0:26.8

ear, and zero judgment. If you've ever struggled with sleep, you've probably gotten advice.

0:35.3

Lots of advice. Put away your phone two hours before bed, no caffeine

0:40.1

afternoon, exercise in the morning, not in the evening, go to bed at the same time every night,

0:44.7

take melatonin, etc. You may even have followed all of these rules religiously and still

0:50.6

found yourself staring at the ceiling at 2 a.m., wondering what you're doing wrong.

0:55.0

Or maybe you've been lucky to not have major sleep problems like insomnia,

0:59.0

but feel guilty about not being as good with your sleep hygiene as you should be.

1:04.8

Now, here's what I want you to know.

1:06.9

These sleep hygiene tips are not bad advice.

1:10.3

Of course, they're like brushing and flossing,

1:13.2

great foundational habits. But if you have a cavity, no amount of brushing is going to fix it.

1:20.0

Similarly, sleep hygiene doesn't fix sleep problems like insomnia.

1:25.1

In fact, in clinical research trials, sleep hygiene education is often used as

1:30.1

the control condition, the thing researchers compare real treatments against. These habits support

1:38.0

general sleep health, but they don't resolve chronic insomnia on their own. And when people

1:43.5

double down on the rules out of

1:45.3

desperation, that rigidity can actually backfire. So I'm going to walk you through which

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