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You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne. Finding out that your family were slave owners is an uncomfortable truth to come to terms with.

That's what journalist Alex Renton grapples with in his new book, Blood Legacy. Offering an unflinching

account of his ancestors' involvement in the slave trade, the book also considers how best to deal with this unwanted

inheritance and how the long-lasting impact of slavery still affects the world today.

I spoke to Alex to find out more.

Blood legacy is a broad exploration of the nature of the slave trade and also how we kind of

come to terms with that legacy today. But it's also a personal story. It's also the story of the slave trade and also how we kind of come to terms with that legacy today.

But it's also a personal story. It's also the story of your own family.

So how did you first become aware of your family's connection to slavery?

Yes, well, my grandfather was a quite well-known historian in the mid-20th century Britain.

He died in 1970.

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