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The Counsel

The Single Question That Will Doom Trump’s Quest to Gut Birthright Citizenship

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst.  For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:31.0

Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Tuesday this week.

0:34.6

We're coming a little early this week for two reasons. The first one, of course,

0:38.6

is this is a semi-holiday week. There are real holidays, but the week is semi-blown-up. We've got

0:44.4

Passover starting Wednesday night, and, of course, Good Friday, and then into Easter Sunday.

0:50.5

Do you remember watching the Ten Commandments, if you're anywhere around my age, which is 50,

0:55.9

soon to turn 51? Do you remember what that was like? They would run it once a year on, I don't know,

1:00.3

ABC or NBC or CBS. And this is before DVRs and, of course, before streaming. And it's the movie

1:06.6

from, I think it's from the 50s or even maybe 40s, where Charlton Heston plays Moses, and there's

1:13.0

all these sort of indelible images of the Red Sea splitting and the angel of death coming down.

1:19.1

I don't know if this is just because I was a Jewish kid or if this affected everyone the same,

1:22.2

but this thing like permanently imprinted itself on my brain. And for the rest of history, I, and I think anyone in

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