Welcome back to The Exorcist Files.

It is your second favorite co-host currently talking to you today, Ryan Bethay.

And here with me is probably your first favorite co-host.

I'm the Ed McMahon to his Johnny Carson. Father Martins, how we doing? Doing great, Ryan. God bless you. God bless everyone listening. Is that accurate, Father? Am I the Ed McMahon of the show? You're almost. He was sort of a John the Baptist character, right? He was to point towards Johnny Carson, right? Was that his theological role? You could say that, sure. Let's go with that.

Oh, man. Well, folks, we know people love the Q&A's and love the questions, and there's no shortage of

things to learn, so we're grateful to have Father Barton's here. Let's get into some spiritual warfare,

because we know that's what the fans want. All right, so Father, and we've mentioned the shroud of Turin in a few different episodes. And basically, distilling down this listener's question,

they're asking, why would it not be a church policy or attempt to try and use the Shrout of Turin

in all exorcisms? It seems like Christ himself is always casting out the demon as he did in the

gospel. So just in the bigger picture,

would the shroud of turn be a silver bullet for lack of a better term and more powerful than other relics,

potentially, your thoughts on that? Yeah. So good question. The shroud of turnt is not a silver

bullet. There are no silver bullets. And I've said this many, many, many, many times. I've said it on the show, I've

written it in my book. I've given it in interviews. There is one exorcist, and that is Jesus Christ.

The rest of us are his agents. And we will use different tools that reflect the power, the goodness,

and the victory of Christ. We use crucifixes, holy images, relics, holy water,

sacramentals, the rite of exorcism. We use the communion of the saints, all of this to achieve

these purposes. Just like a soldier in a war will use many weapons to defeat the enemy, right? And we use them. And to the extent that

they are useful, we use them a whole lot. But there is no one single weapon in the area of

exorcism that is the catch-all. It is kind of the one weapon to rule them all, so to speak.

So, why don't I use the Shrad of Turin relic in every single

exorcism? Because no relic is equally efficacious in every single case. I just know this

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