Before, when I was overworked, Hunter Pay, the typical struggling freelancer just really busy all the time,

a lot of it was just by distractions or making things harder than they needed to be or fixing my

lead magnet for the millionth time, but not with like an actual strategy or like reasons behind it.

It's just because I saw something else, right?

So when you focus on what matters and you systemize things, then you can start to free up time.

This episode is good and it's worth your time. And here's why. I interviewed Jill, who's a conversion

copywriter, a brand and marketing strategist, but she actually has achieved six figure years.

I know because she's a coaching client of mine,

and she does that in four-day work weeks.

And she's a new mom with a 15-month-old at home.

And this blew my mind, but she had already achieved these,

what's called the milestone goals, the holy grail grill of having an online course and being an online coach before she took maternity leave.

Then she came back from maternity leave with Baby Brain.

You don't know what that is, listening in on the episode and worked even less than she was working before and still made more.

My name's Quajjo. I've coached with Rick for about three years inside of his program.

And I am the new co-host of the Art of Online Business podcast. It's an honor to be able to be

here and share with you. Go back to the episode that Rick aired on

September 1st, 23, and you'll listen to his reflections on his sabbatical and some of the

decisions that went into bringing me on as the co-host. And I want you to enjoy this episode.

I know you'll get a lot from it. We'll chat more soon. Enjoy the episode. I want you to enjoy this episode. I know you'll get a lot from it. We'll chat more soon.

Enjoy the episode.

I want you to tell me, please, like walk me through how you actually got to six figures

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