Even in our company, we need to start specializing.

So, you know, Nick and I, we don't take every meeting together now.

He needs to specialize and work on this, and I trusted to do that.

And vice versa.

This is the flavor.

And I have my guest, Jason Alvarez, cone, CEO and co-founder of POPPLE, that's P-O-P-L,

and Nick Ison's COO and co-founder of POPPLE, two young gentlemen who I met.

I think they either were still at UCLA or graduating from UCLA and

looking through your new progress, I just had to have you on the playbook,

because I think the majority of my audience needs to understand what it takes to be a successful

entrepreneur, and how we deal with change, because both of you, not only physically,

have reached puberty, but emotionally and business-wise as well, because I can see a great

transformation in what you've been able to do since I met you when you were graduating school.

For you to, what's the biggest lesson that you've learned from the time when we met,

and you were a big item, bushy-tailed, looking to raise money, trying to figure out this

virtual business card business with the dreams of having an integrated platform to utilize all

types of different platforms, as I saw it at that time, what lesson has stemmed from the years

of success now from the day that we met? Yeah, well, so I kind of see this in two parts.

The first one is, as first-time founders coming out of UCLA, we knew that there was a lot that we

didn't know, right? So we kind of went into this and we started this company, and we knew there

was so much that, okay, we need to learn along the way, but that is the beauty of it, and that's

where we kind of accepted, as people as first-time founders, and that accepting of understanding that

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