So as somebody's taking a small step today, I would make a big deal about it.

Not to blow sunshine at him, but because for them, that's a really big step.

Welcome back. Today we are with the only other person to do as much business in Disney parks as I do, Bob Gough. I'm Disney World. He's Disneyland. He is the king of whimsy. He is the king of encouragement. Today we have a really fun conversation where we talk about wonder and awe and of course, whimsy.

I think this is the third time Bob's been on the show.

He was one of the very first guests that I ever put on the show way back in 2018 when I first started.

He's just a wonderful guy.

We're all going to have a great time today, and I'm so glad that you're here.

Okay, without further ado, here's my friend Bob.

Bob, I always love having you on the show.

Welcome back to the show.

Here's something you may not know.

We have a Disney connection.

Oh, here's our Disney connection.

Tell me about it.

You have the West Coast covered.

You have your events at Disneyland. I always see all the fun things that you're doing. And what I do is every year I take a group of long-term business coaching clients to Disney. I also take my team to Disney. And I just, I love it. And you work rather inspirational to me in deciding to do this a few years ago

because I spent most of my days as kind of a focused business coach where I'm serious with my

clients and, you know, we're taking their work very seriously and I'm consulting on things.

The idea of melding serious work on a trip with Winsical Disney World, which I also love, didn't seem to work for me.

And then I saw the great events you're hosting around Disneyland. And I thought,

well, Bob was a hard charging lawyer for years and years, knows his stuff. Those two things can work.

So thank you for inspiring me to bring more of what I loved in my personal into my work.

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