You know what, you don't really have to be smart to get what you want, but you have to be

bold, and you have to make the ask, and you've got to put yourself out there.

Even if you don't succeed, right?

And so from that moment on as a young girl, I learned a very valuable lesson of not over

thinking, not listening to people who hurt their naysayers and just going after it for

good or for bad.

Part of a lot of people's success that actually have had longevity in their career or in

their life is that they had to fail.

They got comfortable with failing, and you know, I don't know, but you, but I have literally

a master's in failing, but at PhD, and getting right back up again.

You just described success in one of the most simple but profound sentences of all time.

Alright, my friends, I'm very excited to bring a conversation to you with a super entrepreneur,

one of the, I think, grittiest hustlers I've had the pleasure of meeting in this space

of content providers that I get to hang out with.

She is Jen Cohen, and she's done some amazing, amazing thing.

That's a great story of just being curious and then trying stuff, which has really become

a lost art.

I think you're going to love this.

Her new book is entitled, Bigger Better Bolder Here Is My Conversation, which is in

Cohen.

Alright, Jen, so I want to know, were you a kid who was always driven and if not, when

do you remember first kind of going, I want something out of this life?

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