Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates.

On tonight show, I have a very special guest, a returning guest. His name is John Brisson. We talked a year ago about the finder's cult.

So you can look back on my William Ramsey Investigates page, wherever you get your podcast and listen to that.

But he's the proprietor of, we've read the documents. I highly recommend if people go check that on on YouTube.

Does excellent research,

actual fact-based research,

which is always nice to see.

But tonight we're going to talk about the subject.

He knows more about than I do,

and it's the subject of a secretive group,

a openly secretive group, I guess,

titled or called Council for National Policy or the C&P.

So John's going to talk more about that.

So John Brisson, are you there?

Yes, I am, William.

Thank you for having me on William Ramsey Investigates.

I'm glad to be back, brother.

Awesome, yeah, great to talk with you again.

Always good to talk with you again. Always good to talk with you. So for people might not have known or listened to our last

interview, you can talk a little bit about your background and what led you to kind of do. We've read the

documents and how you came across this interesting secretive group council for national policy.

Yeah, I am a Christian conservative. I voted for Trump at 2016. Things started not adding up for me during, you know, the Trump

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